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The Breakeven Podcast

A series of podcasts with guest speakers, discussing problem gambling, and how those who are affected can get help.

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Take a listen to the Breakeven Podcast, where we speak to a series of guests around their experience with gambling related harm.

You can watch on YouTube, or listen via Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

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Episode 20: Ben Howard - “Think back to that winning streak, it's going to happen again”

Ben Howard’s first visit to a casino was a winning one — and that’s where it all began.For 14 years, Ben chased that first win, believing he could beat the odds. But his addiction spiralled, leading him to steal money to fund his gambling. Eventually, Ben made the brave decision to hand himself in to the police.Now, he’s turned his life around — working as a Recovery Coach for Reframe Coaching, helping others rebuild their lives too.A powerful story of accountability, change, and hope. 💬#Breakeven #GamblingRecovery #AddictionAwareness #Podcast #RecoveryJourney #ReframeCoaching #CriminalJustice

Episode 19: Richie: "You might feel like dying today, but you don't want to die for the rest of your life.”

Our latest episode features Richie, who bravely discusses his experiences of gambling addiction, drug and alcohol misuse, and the profound impact of baby loss on his mental health. After the traumatic loss of his baby, Richie reached a breaking point and attempted to take his own life. He was saved by a passing stranger — a moment that changed everythingRichie has since rebuilt his life. He now works with the EPIC Restart Foundation, supporting others on their recovery journeys and raising awareness of gambling-related harm. This episode highlights the importance of compassion, support, and early intervention.https://www.epicrestartfoundation.org/

Episode 18:Julie Martin -“You don’t wake up one day and decide to throw your life and finances away”

Julie Martin, Peer-Aid Training Co-Ordinator at Betknowmore, shares her heartbreaking story about her ex-husband who had a gambling addiction for 25+ years. She shares how it affected him, and those around him, including his wife and two young children.Sadly, with his gambling addiction came abusive behaviour, which led to the demise of their relationship, and tragically, his life.Julie now works in the gambling related harms industry, providing training to peer aid co-ordinators, to help those who were in a similar situation to Julie.

Episode 17: Andy Gallie - “Gambling is is so misunderstood”

This episode is with veteran and ex gambler, Andy Gallie. Andy speaks about his time in the Navy, and how his childhood experiences shaped his gambling addiction. Andy explains why people in the Navy are more likely to suffer gambling related harm, and how the Armed Forces Gambling Support Network (AFGSN) can provide training and treatment to anyone in the armed forces community.

The Breakeven Podcast Ep 16: Abi - “I thought I was the only woman in the world doing this”

In this episode, we welcome Abi, our first woman gambler, to share her story with gambling harms. During maternity leave, Abi decided to try her luck at Bingo to help fund her leave, and for something to do during the night feeds. Some harmless fun at online bingo soon transpired to not being able to think about anything else.After throwing away all her funds for Christmas presents, Abi decided it's time to get help. Abi speaks about her addiction, how it affected relationships and her mental health, and goes on to speak about her positive recovery, including some therapy with Breakeven and joining two of our nationwide support groups (available to all, not just Breakeven clients).

The Breakeven Podcast Ep 15: Paul - “I felt valued by the bookmaker"

Fresh into university at 19, Paul started to feel the pressure and turned to gambling. He started to chase his losses, taking out credit to fund his gambling habits, and ended up in £10,000 debt. Paul turned to his work for support, who were far from supportive, which led him to Breakeven. Paul has undertaken therapy from Breakeven, and enrolled on our After Care Programme, Green Shoots, where he continues to be a member of the lived experience group for continuous support. Paul also speaks about how being neurodiverse can encourage gambling behaviours.

The Breakeven Podcast Ep 14: Harj - “There is no honour in suffering in silence”

Harj tells his heartbreaking story about his gambling addiction, that lead to an attempt on his life. Harj talks about the Sharam (Shame) in South Asian Communities, and how difficult it was to seek help for his addiction. Harj lives to tell the tale, and uses his lived experience to help others in the South Asian Community. People from minoritized communities often experience disproportionate levels of gambling harm, often up to 5 times in comparison to someone from a white ethnic background. We understand it can be incredibly difficult for people to seek help and support due to the stigma and shame attached to gambling. As a result, people may feel alone and isolated.Our pioneering Breaking The Sharam Programme works in the heart of communities to break the shame, and stigma by providing training, awareness and culturally relevant support to VCSFE group in a variety of community languages.

The Breakeven Podcast Ep 13: Peter & Steph Shilton - “It's not something you're ever going to win"

We are joined on this months episode by Peter & Steph Shilton, sharing their gambling story. Peter Shilton, the most capped England player of all time, speaks about the famous Hand of God moment, and his footballing career. He goes on to tell his 45 year gambling story, how he became addicted to gambling, and how much he spent on gambling in total. His now wife, Steph, spotted the gambling signs and single-handedly helped him to stop his gambling. Peter & Steph open up about how they managed to stop Peter's gambling behaviour, and how and why they came out to the press regarding their story, which has resulted in saving lives, and being advocates for helping those affected by gambling related harms.

The Breakeven Podcast Episode 12: Christine -“We all make mistakes, some are more severe than others”

Christine Parker, Head of Criminal Justice at Breakeven, speaks about The Criminal Justice Programme, where Breakeven deliver gambling related harms training in prisons. Christine explains why people in prison may struggle with gambling related harms, and how they can receive help. The Breakeven Criminal Justice Programme offers accredited interventions designed to support individuals in prison or probation services, who are adversely affected by gambling or gaming. This includes:Group coursesOne to one individual sessionsFace to face or telephone sessionsActivity packs and workbooksParticipants who complete the course modules can earn accreditation through the AQA Unit Award Scheme achieving a Level 1 certification.We have expanded our services into more institutions across the East and South East. We are working closely with Probation services in Kent and Sussex to aid both staff, and those in their care, to recognise signs of harmful gambling and confidently signpost to support pathways.To get more information on the Breakeven Criminal Justice Programme, contact christine@breakeven.org.uk

The Breakeven Podcast Episode 11: Steve Girling - “Gambling became a way of escaping certain things”

Steve Girling, Co-Founder of Reframe Coaching, tells his story about his relationship with gambling. Steve first introduced to gambling as a young child, with family trips to the arcades. Moving onto fruit machines, slot machines, and online betting, Steve realised his addiction was ramping up. Steve went to lengths to get money to fund his gambling, resulting in stealing from his employer, and eventually prison. Whilst in prison, Steve took courses in coaching and counselling, and the idea of Reframe Coaching was born.

The Breakeven Podcast Ep 10:Matty Etherington - “It's the best thing I ever did, because I wouldn't be here anymore”

Ex Professional League footballer, Matty Etherington, opens up about his gambling addiction.Matty struggled with gambling throughout the height of his footballing career, and talks about how this affected his performance, his career, and his family. Matty speaks about the temptation to gamble in the footballing industry, and what needs to be done to help those struggling. At the end of the episode, we welcome ex professional footballer George Parris, who also struggled with a gambling addiction in his footballing days, to compare gambling in football from George's footballing era, to Matty's, to now.

The Breakeven Podcast Episode 9: Andy - "“I believed I was one more win away from being ok”

Andy developed a gambling addiction when he was serving in the military. He speaks openly about his experience with gambling, and how he has since come out the other side, and has been bet free for 5 years. Breakeven are proud to be a partner of The Armed Forces Gambling Support Network, and Andy talks about the help that military personnel and veterans can receive, including treatment and also education around gambling related harms. To attend the Unseen Enemy screening on 27 Feb 2025 in London that Andrew discusses, please visit https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-unseen-enemy-gambling-related-harms-in-the-military-tickets-1137630065149?aff=oddtdtcreator

The Breakeven Podcast Episode 8: Tony -"The thing that was causing me all the trouble was my escape"

Tony, an ex gambler, opens up about his gambling addiction and the affect it had on his life. He talks about how he went about getting help, and the difference it has made on his life. It's now been 3 years since Tony has placed a bet.

The Breakeven Podcast Episode 2: Dan - "The bigger the whirlpool got, the bigger the lies became"

A very honest discussion with an ex gambler, explaining how it affected his life and what he's done to get help. Dan now works within the industry to help others with gambling addiction.

The Breakeven Podcast Episode 7: Suzanne - "It can be so isolating"

Suzanne has been affected by problem gambling, due to her husbands addiction, and now works for Breakeven. Suzanne openly speaks out about gambling related harms, and how we can help if you are affected by someone elses gambling.

The Breakeven Podcast Ep6: Alistair -"Online gambling is uniquely predisposed towards ADHD & Autism"

Alistair Barfield, from Protect & Deflect, speaks about the links between neurodiversity and harmful gambling behaviours, and what education should happen to help prevent gambling addiction within the neurodiverse and young communities.

The Breakeven Podcast Episode 5: Nicola Jaques - "I was determined to save our relationship"

Nicola has been affected by problem gambling, due to her husbands addiction. Nicola openly speaks out about gambling related harms to those who are affected, and explains the characteristics to look out for and how to seek help.

The Breakeven Podcast Episode 4: Liz Karter - “At the root of gambling addiction for many women, is trauma”

Liz Karter is a specialist in women and gambling, who talks about how you could identify or get help with gambling related harm

The Breakeven Podcast Ep 3: Mark - "Gambling was a way to distract me from the reality of my health"

This months episode is about the link between Parkinsons Disease and gambling. When Mark asked his Parkinson's Nurse about provision and support for those with Young Onset Parkinson's Disease (YOPD), the response that there was very little available referred to the local area, in which there was a very active Parkinson's UK local branch who were already very established and effective at supporting those affected by the disease at an older age. Since the WhatsApp group was set up, there has become a very strong partnership with the local Parkinson's UK group, who have been quick to support this growing group. Please note due to the condition, there is some background noise due to Mark's tremmers, which is one of the symptoms of parkinsons disease.

The Breakeven Podcast Episode 1: George Parris

The Breakeven Podcast Episode 1 with Guest George Parris, speaking about his lived experience with problem gambling, and how to get help if you are affected.

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